• No, lying cultists, Ford didn’t move production from Mexico to Ohio because of Donald Trump

    by  • October 25, 2015 • Uncategorized • 48 Comments

    This morning I saw a post on Facebook about a Ford plant in my county in Ohio. The article is one of the worst examples of rewriting history that I have ever seen.

    Trump cultist falsely writes that Ford move from Mexico to Ohio was because of Trump

    Trump cultist falsely writes that Ford move from Mexico to Ohio was because of Trump

    The article was published on a site called “Prntly” by someone named Dmitri Voltova, who claims that he moved to the US from a former Soviet Republic.

    Dmitri Voltova was born in the USSR Russian SFR. He moved to the United States after the fall of the Soviet Union, and is a proud contributor to Prntly with a voice from the former communist empires.

    The bulk of the site’s articles is blatantly pro-Trump and the Ford article is full of several errors, but that hasn’t stopped Donald Trump from citing it and taking credit.

    First, yes, Ford did move a major production line from Mexico to Ohio.

    The problem for Trump? It was announced four years ago. We even wrote about it here at 3BP.

    Yesterday, we talked about how the Kasich administration approved incentive for 30 new jobs projects. Another one of the big projects included will secure the future of jobs at Ford’s Avon Lake assembly plant. With the new incentives, Ford actually plans on bringing medium duty truck production out of Mexico and to Ohio. From the Lorain Morning Journal:

    “Their visit will highlight the importance of the partnership with our state and local governments in moving production of the F-650 and F-750 from Mexico to our facility,” the plant advisory said. “We are also insourcing the F53 motor home chassis and F59 commercial stripped chassis production from an outside supplier.
    “Furthermore, your ongoing commitment to delivering a high quality product to our customers is making this investment possible,” the plant advisory said. “We want to thank all of you for your contributions in securing the future of the Ohio Assembly Plant.”

    Let’s be absolutely clear. Donald Trump had nothing to do with this. It happened in 2011.

    This move was the result of a negotiations and deals between Ford, the Kasich administration, local officials and the UAW. Period.

    This past summer, after millions of dollars of investment in the plant, the first heavy duty Ford truck rolled off the assembly line in the re-tooled Avon Lake, Ohio plant. Mr. Voltova seems to have read this CNN Money article about it, and decided to inexplicably give Trump the credit.

    Voltova also wrongly states that the Ford plant is located in Youngstown, Ohio, which is 90 miles away. Fittingly, the article features an obviously manipulated photo showing Trump standing in an auto plant speaking at a podium in the path of a moving assembly line.

    What’s disturbing is that Trumpkins and Trump himself are now citing this ridiculous and poorly written article as proof that Trump pressured Ford into this move.

    It was quoted on Right Wing News, and the Donald himself is tweeting about it.

    Trump constantly brags about accomplishments that he was never responsible for, and this is no exception.

    But what’s sadder is that the person who posted this on Facebook was a Lorain County Commissioner when the great news of this announcement was made back in 2011. He knows full well that it was four years ago and that Donald Trump had absolutely zero involvement. Yet he posted it on Facebook anyway, knowing it’s a lie.

    Donald Trump’s minions apparently don’t care what is true and what is not. Just like Trump himself.

    UPDATE: Here are additional links from 2011 proving that Ford announced this four years ago.

    Ford to move truck production from Mexico to Ohio

    Truck line coming to Avon Lake Ford plant

    Ford investing $128 million in Avon Lake plant

    Trump continues to take credit.

    UPDATE: Ford just confirmed our story. The decision to move truck production from Mexico to the Avon Lake, Ohio plant was made in 2011. Trump wasn’t involved.

    “Ford has not spoken with Mr. Trump, nor have we made any changes to our plans,” it said in a statement released Monday.

    “We decided to move the F-650 and the F-750 medium-duty trucks to Ohio Assembly in 2011, long before any candidates announced their intention to run for U.S. president,” Ford said.


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    I was born and raised in Ohio. After growing up in the Columbus area, I moved to Cleveland to study at Case Western Reserve University, and have lived in Northeast Ohio ever since. I live in Wellington with my wife and son. I work in the private sector and have never worked in the political field.

    http://www.thirdbasepolitics.com

    48 Responses to No, lying cultists, Ford didn’t move production from Mexico to Ohio because of Donald Trump

    1. Fred Sokol
      October 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM

      Hey Nick,

      “De Nile” is not only the river in Egypt. Donald Trump signed the agreement to support the Republican Candidate for U.S. President in 2016. Will you?

      Best Regards
      Fred Sokol, Registered Independent Voter soon to be Registered Republican Voter because of Donald Trump.

      • October 25, 2015 at 9:08 PM

        Ford decided this 4 years ago. I laid out the proof of this. Trump had nothing to do with it.

        • October 25, 2015 at 11:03 PM

          Proof is your blog four years ago. Really who believes you or Hillary.

          • October 25, 2015 at 11:31 PM

            Excellent response!! Just ignore all the other links to newspapers from 2011, right?

        • October 28, 2015 at 4:34 AM

          The Ford plant which should REALLY be the issue is this engine plant – http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/17/us-ford-motor-mexico-idUSKBN0N827120150417 Nick’s article just confuses the real issue, which is that Ford seems to be getting off the hook for all the union jobs which will go south.

          • October 28, 2015 at 7:13 AM

            Trump tweeted the original faulty article. But mine, which sets the record straight, confuses the issue. Got it.

        • bryson
          November 14, 2016 at 12:50 PM

          Well that’s great Nick, As long as you can find something he does wrong, you take the credit for this then who cares. You may need to go back to the streets and protest, like the rest of the crybabies. Your Hillary, would still be going to parties, and gloating over her victory. but if he does something else bad or what ever, I’m sure you will let us know quickly huh.

    2. Kaiser Roll
      October 25, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      “Lying Cultists”

      That’s how this blog treats its fellow R primary voters, not those of say, admitted Socialist Bernie Sanders.

      Marco Rubio is not a conservative, he is fully onboard with the globalist agenda. Invading the world, inviting the world.

      No thanks, I am voting for Donald Trump.

      • October 25, 2015 at 7:50 PM

        If you spread news that Ford made this move because of Trump, you’re lying. Plain and simple.

        • November 14, 2016 at 3:27 AM

          What many of your ilk will never really understand is that because you scorn Trump supporters, painting us as “cultists”, is the exact reason why Trump won the election. You made the choice to refer to us as “cultists”, as we made the decision to make him the 45th President. Sorry, Nick. The fact that you can’t report a completely legitimate argument without using words like “cultist” is exactly the reason why your message is apparently not widely accepted… just like the rest of the leftist media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnu9Ly4TnSM

      • October 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM

        “That’s how this blog treats its fellow R primary voters”

        …and look how Trump treats other Republican nominees. The support Trump receives is the same as what Obama received in 2007-08… cultish, creepy, and undeserved… just more disturbing because Trump is openly more mean than Obama was then.

        • Kaiser Roll
          October 26, 2015 at 1:44 PM

          Obama won twice. The two R “nice guys” did not.

          This is not your father’s America, the Immigration Act of 1965 saw to that.

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    6. October 25, 2015 at 11:45 PM

      Hi Nick can you please share how you know that this decision that you have researched to have been made four years ago that you state Donald Trump had no influence on Ford when they made the decision, and can you share a link showing he didn’t Influence the decision when it was made in 2011. Thanks for sharing.

      • October 26, 2015 at 12:00 AM

        My post has plenty of links about the announcement in 2011. That’s your proof.

      • Brian Penson
        October 26, 2015 at 3:48 PM

        I worked for the Ford plant in Avon Lake ohio. Just like the article says. It was negotiated 4 years ago that the trucks were coming from Mexico to ohio. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with this. What Trump was trying to stop was Ford’s plans to move the Focus/Cmaxx production from Michigan to mexico. A plan which Ford is still going forward with. The Michigan plant that currently builds the focus and cmaxx will be getting a product or products to replace it. Again Donald Trump had nothing to do with this.

    7. Rob G
      October 26, 2015 at 12:08 AM

      Nick, if you can’t post links here that back up your claims, then you are the liar.

      • October 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM

        There are multiple links in the article that prove this deal was announced 4 years ago. Having trouble reading, Trumpkin?

        • Sub L
          October 26, 2015 at 1:56 AM

          I read you loud and clear, you agree with outsourcing to Mexico, and mass immigration. I’d rather be a Trumpkin than a traitor.

          • October 26, 2015 at 7:28 AM

            Ok then…

          • October 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM

            Where does Nick say he agrees with outsourcing anywhere? Where is that implied? You just made a logical fallacy. There are links in the article itself… when I clicked on them, the date 2011 showed up, not 2015. But what does truth matter to a “Trumpkin”?

            I’m waiting for the reply that Trump went back in time to 2011 in a Delorean to convince Ford. I know it’s coming…

    8. Rob C
      October 26, 2015 at 1:35 AM

      So basically, you are posting this to make people go though almost every one of your blogs. If not then to prove your point you should post links here otherwise you are lying or just self promoting your blog. I would be interested in the links, but will not go through years of your blogs to prove your point for you…..burden of proof is on you sir

      • October 26, 2015 at 7:27 AM

        LOL Wut? This post has several links to newspaper stories from 2011.

        • October 26, 2015 at 7:41 AM

          This was a great article, Nick. And, you posted links right in it. *smh*

    9. October 26, 2015 at 2:57 AM

      Right on, Nick. We all know that Printly is a bs (baloney sauce) site.

    10. Ed
      October 26, 2015 at 6:05 AM

      So, you’re saying all of Trumps talk about bringing jobs and production back to the US is a bad thing? All Trumps ideas about heavily taxing companies that make stuff overseas instead of in the US is a bad thing? Even if all of Trumps talk makes companies think twice about going overseas, because they think he’ll be president, can’t be all bad. I don’t hear any other politician saying it like it is.

      • Kim
        October 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM

        Have you ever actually listened to Trump? I have. Nick is right. This deal with Ford had nothing to do with Trump and saying you will be the greatest jobs president ever is not a plan to bring jobs back.

        • October 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM

          Is it because he’s a “good businessman” and I am not? I could say all the things people want to hear, too. He has IT persons who keep an eye on “trending” with software and he tells people what they want to hear one day and changes it the next. (and he’s not a good businessman, either–ask his creditors when he went bankrupt)

          • October 27, 2015 at 12:33 AM

            Well divorce does have that effect. He still managed to become a Billionaire after all that, so if that is being a bad Businessman, sign me up.

    11. Lizzy
      October 26, 2015 at 8:20 AM

      Wow seriously…are all yall ust plain stupid. It’s very clear that he is not saying US jobs are bad. He is stating that this move was simply not Trumps doing. To not let him have the credit of these actions when there was a plan to do this before he ever announced his presidency canidation. I’m sorry but I’m full on republican but I think Trump is a joke. Carson is the way to go.

    12. Bryan
      October 26, 2015 at 9:52 AM

      Wow. Nick, I am sure you don’t need me to tell you, but you should just ignore these idiots. They are going to hear what they want to hear regardless of the information you provided. Just keep doing what you are doing. And if someone lies to promote themselves, then call them out just like you did here. Us non-idiots appreciate it.

    13. Kim
      October 26, 2015 at 10:54 AM

      Nick, thank you. Your article proves what many of us suspected, Trump supporters are uninformed. Had they taken the time to read your article, check the links and do a little research on their own, instead of waiting to be spoon fed, they’d see that. I am amazed how many forget that the Presidency and this country is supposed to be about “WE THE PEOPLE” and yet they support some one who clearly stands for nothing more than “me, myself and I”.

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    17. Bernie Daniel
      October 26, 2015 at 6:08 PM

      You know I realize there are emotions and strong feelings involved but I don’t see the need to call Trump supporters names (and vice versa). The Trump candidacy is a logical consequence of the last six years of back-stabbing by the leaders of the republican party.

      As a result of this continuous disparagement by the GOP leadership, freedom loving, traditional Americans are so fractured and divided that we may be in the process of blowing a real chance to win the White House in 2016.

      EVEN TODAY some “republicans” in Congress are joining with Nancy Pelosi and the House democrats to force a discharge position on the Import-Export bank petition — thus doing bidding of The Chamber of Commerce not conservative American tax payers. The vote is tonight.

      Even today republican leaders in Congress are laying the ground work for passing another increase in the debt limit.

      Even today republican leaders in Congress are cooking up phony votes that make in look like they are voting to defund Obamacare and phony votes to show they are for defunding Planned Parenthood.

      Again to be clear these are toothless, meaningless bills with no significance and are only meant to provide cover for faux-conservatives in the GOP.

      Many of us worked hard to assure a republican congressional majorities in 2010 and 2014. All that work led nothing but constant betrayal by people like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell.

      And that is why you have Donald Trump plain and simple — and YES his supporters are angry with the system and the betrayers! Six years of getting shafted on a daily bassists leads to that.

      Listen GOP, you can’t keep spitting in the hands that feed you and then expect those hands to be there for you in the next election.

      Personally, I do not support Donald Trump for president but I sure don’t blame Trump supporters for being vociferous and aggressive in support of their man. If you “moderates” want their votes eventually for whomever YOU support maybe name calling is not the best approach?

      • Bryan
        October 27, 2015 at 9:00 AM

        Bernie – outstanding response. I feel totally betrayed as well, and I am pi$$ed off beyond explanation. I stopped supporting the RNC and other “R” organizations several years ago. Hell, our Senator Rob Portman flopped on gay marriage (like he is doing his kid some favor saying that his terrible choice is OK after all), and our state party put a former gay marriage lobbyist in charge. Personally, although I do not support Trump, I am glad he is in the race. So far, it seems to me like he is helping other candidates “grow a pair.” But having said that, I think they should be called out when they put false information out there to make him look good. And I am stunned by the vitriolic responses. Nonetheless, I agree with you that calling them names is not good either.

        • Bernie Daniel
          October 28, 2015 at 11:59 AM

          Agreed! I only wish at least ONE of the three “outsiders” who put their hat in the ring could be a person with fewer uncertainties surrounding their candidacy. It is hard to take Donald Trump seriously when he continues to remain profoundly ignorant about the facts behind many of his positions that he claims to hold and is continuously sending out childish and self-serving “tweets”. Sure send out tweets if you want but show some class — don’t “name call” and act like a high school student.

          Both Ben Carson and Donald Trump are late comers to conservative positions in many areas — nothing wrong with that as long as they are sincere I guess. But we have only their word — no actions — no track record. I don’t want a person who is not is not TRULY and DEEPLY committed.

          Carly Fiorina is sincere and committed (I believe) but she has not always been conservative on some issues either. I wonder does she really have such a good record as a CEO? It killed in her in wacko California. But at least Carly has as taken the time to study the issues and have coherent, understandable positions. That is something that Carson is poor on and Trump is “vacant” on — e.g., “I will be the best jobs President ever” is not a policy that means much to me! Although it could turnout to be true someday?

          What a fractured mess conservatism is today. The very things that make us “good Americans” – i.e., an unflinching belief in our traditional ways and culture — is keeping us from uniting. No one will compromise on anything.

          Fine, don’t compromises with liberals and progressives who are selling out our country but can’t some accord be reachrd within the conservative ranks so that we could win an election?

          Why do Trump supporters have to attack Ben Carson so viciously and vice versa. It’s crazy and self-defeating. Why do republicans keep taking the bait from liberal commentators and keep having public food fights? I’m stating to believe that we really are stupid. At the very least we are gullible.

      • October 28, 2015 at 12:36 PM

        I wasn’t calling all Trump supporters that. Only the ones who insisted Trump was right, depsite all of the evidence to the contrary.

        • Bernie Daniel
          October 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

          I understand where you are coming from — the whole state of affairs is several levels of frustration beyond normal.

          I don’t live on every word from Rush Limbaugh — but he has a keen political mind and today he was 100% right. Rush said that this insane TWO YEAR budget deal that those two “republican leaders”, McConnell and Boehner have hatched up with Obama and which they are forcing through Congress will give us the 9th year of Barack Obama’s policies/priorities and is going to make the presidency Hillary Clinton much more certain.

          And these are our LEADERS!! This is the best we can vote in to office to represent us? Kafkaesque does not begin to describe it.

          Boehner and McConnell have more in common with Barack Obama then with you or I or most on this forum.

          When they campaign are they totally LYING to us?

          Are they just so INEPT that they are outwitted in EVERY TIME?

          Or are they so completely intimidated by Obama and the democrats in Congress that they are AFRAID TO FIGHT?

          Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Clinton must be drinking chamage and partying like there is no tomorrow. There might not be a tomorrow for the “Grand” Old Party.

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